Consulting with patients
Stage three of the DMS can be divided into three parts:
- Before the call
- During the call
- After the call.
It is important to consider which questions to ask at each part:
Ask yourself:
- What do you know about this patient and their situation?
- What clinical, functional and social history do you have on your system?
- What is the best way to contact this person? Have you got a home and mobile number?
- Where are they and when is it convenient to speak?
- Is it the patient, their carer or relative? Do they want a family member/carer on the call?
- Is your working environment conducive to a confidential call?
- What protected time do you have?
- Have you got systems to manage potential interruptions?
- If using equipment/software, is it working and can you use it confidently?
Introduction:
Check that you can hear/see each other. Explain the purpose of the call. Find out what they expect from the call. Remember to speak less and listen more. Ask what questions they have first, listen carefully to their answers and address their immediate issues.
Listing medicines:
Ask how it would be easiest for them to go through the medicines they take. If they don’t have a suggestion, you could offer them one: “Perhaps you would like to tell me how your medicines fit into your day and when you take each one, or you could read your list if you have one, or I could read out my list to you. Which would be easiest for you?”
Managing discrepancies:
When identifying a discrepancy between your list and the patient’s, rather than asking “why?” (which can sound judgemental), try saying “tell me more about that medicine”. Follow this up by saying “my records have different information, so I am going to check this with...”
Reassure them that discrepancies are common and easily resolved (that’s what the service is for). Advise them what to do in the meantime and ensure you tell them when you’ll get back to them realistically. Take time to explain the change and find out what more they would like to know (e.g. side-effects, how it works, etc) before you continue your explanation.
Consider which medicines might not be needed after discharge (e.g. laxatives) and encourage the patient to review this with their primary care prescriber, as appropriate.
Closing the consultation:
Ask the patient if they have any questions following the conversation. For example:
- “From what we’ve discussed, what else would you like to ask?”
or
- “Is there something else you’d like to ask?”
Note: using the word “some” rather than “any” allows people to explore more unmet concerns. Always refer/signpost/safeguard as appropriate and document your consultation on the appropriate system. Be the last person on the call.
Schedule when you can follow up and when you will get back to the patient/carer. When following up, consider how you contact health professionals in different sectors.
For example, community pharmacies can find it challenging to contact the appropriate hospital pharmacist when there is a query. It is worth contacting the local hospital pharmacy to identify the optimal communication method, which may be by email or direct phone numbers, rather than hospital switchboards.
Records are technically on the hospital system, but it is worth finding out who can access them and when. The pharmacist who saw a patient may be on a ward (not accessible) and might not remember a patient without access to records.
Check whether your hospital’s medicines information or clinical services can help. Local conversations in advance of offering DMS are important, and some methods may also be agreed at an LPC level.
The Five E's
A useful aid to conversations is the ‘Five Es’ approach, which can be summarised as follows:
- Engage the patient in conversation and confirm that they have time to talk
- Explore what the patient wants to know and follow their agenda
- Educate them on what they want to know
- Empower the patient to make a choice
- Enable behavioural change so that patients achieve their aims.
More information on the Five Es can be found in the TM March CPD module: helping with first prescriptions.